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	<title>Comments on: The One Minute Case For Abortion Rights</title>
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	<description>The One Minute Case is a new collaborative blog which will present a brief argument about a controversial issue that can be read in about a minute. The goal is to publish one case per day. You can read the cases to learn something new about an issue or use them as a source for longer arguments of your own.</description>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://oneminute.rationalmind.net/abortion/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 05:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matthew Valk: Did you even READ it? The whole point is that the "child" doesn't have any rights, as it's not a child. Even if it had any rights, the potential life of a fetus that cannot think or act on it's own CERTAINLY does not have the right to destroy the life of a true and flesh human being, with whom you can talk and love and connect. 

And it is the right of religion only to exclude those who get abortions from their ranks, not to influence a NON RELIGIOUS GOVERNMENT. It doesn't matter in the slightest what "God" thinks, because that's not the law's purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matthew Valk: Did you even READ it? The whole point is that the &#8220;child&#8221; doesn&#8217;t have any rights, as it&#8217;s not a child. Even if it had any rights, the potential life of a fetus that cannot think or act on it&#8217;s own CERTAINLY does not have the right to destroy the life of a true and flesh human being, with whom you can talk and love and connect. </p>
<p>And it is the right of religion only to exclude those who get abortions from their ranks, not to influence a NON RELIGIOUS GOVERNMENT. It doesn&#8217;t matter in the slightest what &#8220;God&#8221; thinks, because that&#8217;s not the law&#8217;s purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Humanitiesprof</title>
		<link>http://oneminute.rationalmind.net/abortion/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Humanitiesprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 21:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Humanitiesprof</title>
		<link>http://oneminute.rationalmind.net/abortion/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Humanitiesprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 20:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is irrelevant what any 'biblical' treatise includes regarding this issue as all of these works were created by males with vested interest in asserting human maleness as the highest life form, aligning it with a male creator. However, their special male creator didn't give them the ability to grow within another human being. In fact, the second creation in Genesis has that creator making Adam from the dust of the earth, while Eve was made from human material. What a woman does with her body and its capabilities belongs to her alone, as that doggoned male creator made her the highest order of life on earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is irrelevant what any &#8216;biblical&#8217; treatise includes regarding this issue as all of these works were created by males with vested interest in asserting human maleness as the highest life form, aligning it with a male creator. However, their special male creator didn&#8217;t give them the ability to grow within another human being. In fact, the second creation in Genesis has that creator making Adam from the dust of the earth, while Eve was made from human material. What a woman does with her body and its capabilities belongs to her alone, as that doggoned male creator made her the highest order of life on earth.</p>
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		<title>By: HeroicLife</title>
		<link>http://oneminute.rationalmind.net/abortion/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>HeroicLife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 05:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Christian God is NOT pro life:

   Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention.  “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer.  Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give?  Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.”  Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children.  God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry.  Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion”?

    Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery.  This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.

Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.”  In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.

Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”.  Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.

2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?

From: http://www.evilbible.com/god%27s%20not%20pro-life.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christian God is NOT pro life:</p>
<p>   Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention.  “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer.  Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give?  Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.”  Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children.  God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry.  Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion”?</p>
<p>    Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery.  This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.</p>
<p>Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.”  In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.</p>
<p>Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”.  Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.</p>
<p>2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?</p>
<p>From: <a href="http://www.evilbible.com/god%27s%20not%20pro-life.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.evilbible.com/god%27s%20not%20pro-life.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Valk</title>
		<link>http://oneminute.rationalmind.net/abortion/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Valk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 01:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sorry, but your argument is lacking God's authority, and also common sense.  Let's start with the latter:

According to your argument, a woman who has chosen to fornicate with random strangers and not take any precautions to avoid pregnancy is having her rights trampled upon if she's told she cannot have the growing child within her vacuumed out in pieces and made into pet food.  Does this sound logical?  What of the child's rights?

Second, what of your lack of authority?  Did you ever consider God's views?

The greatest authority you seem able to quote is another atheist.  Do you honestly believe that the voters or lawmakers in a Christian nation like the United States will care what some atheist -- pardon me, "objectivist" -- has to say?

Perhaps you should review what God has to say on the subject.  As luck would have it, I've recently posted a summation myself.  http://feelgoodbible.blogspot.com/2007/04/abortion-what-would-jesus-do.html 

I hope you find it enlightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but your argument is lacking God&#8217;s authority, and also common sense.  Let&#8217;s start with the latter:</p>
<p>According to your argument, a woman who has chosen to fornicate with random strangers and not take any precautions to avoid pregnancy is having her rights trampled upon if she&#8217;s told she cannot have the growing child within her vacuumed out in pieces and made into pet food.  Does this sound logical?  What of the child&#8217;s rights?</p>
<p>Second, what of your lack of authority?  Did you ever consider God&#8217;s views?</p>
<p>The greatest authority you seem able to quote is another atheist.  Do you honestly believe that the voters or lawmakers in a Christian nation like the United States will care what some atheist &#8212; pardon me, &#8220;objectivist&#8221; &#8212; has to say?</p>
<p>Perhaps you should review what God has to say on the subject.  As luck would have it, I&#8217;ve recently posted a summation myself.  <a href="http://feelgoodbible.blogspot.com/2007/04/abortion-what-would-jesus-do.html" rel="nofollow">http://feelgoodbible.blogspot.com/2007/04/abortion-what-would-jesus-do.html</a> </p>
<p>I hope you find it enlightening.</p>
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